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mimi_sardiniaIt's rather inevitable that I'd get plotbunnies somewhere along the way - well no, it isn't, because not every fandom I have been involved in, one way or another has generated plotbunnies, but Transformers is one that I feel enough connection to that I have been getting them.
I've left off until now however because some of my earlier thoughts were only partial but I've been mulling over one that has developed to a point that I just have to put it to rest somehow, and writing a synopsis has worked in the past.
To start off with, one of the lines of thinking I got into at some point (probably during the week my compy was off at the shop) about how to resolve G1 Quintesson origin with Primus.
For those with a less than substantial memory of G1 animated canon, the Quintessons were introduced in TFTM (i.e. the '86 animated movie). There they were basically just a pack of five-faced bastards with a legal system that was really, really nasty. If you get found innocent, you get executed, if get found guilty, you get executed too. Usually by dint of being fed to the Sharkticons.
However, with the introductory storyline of season 3 of the series, the Quints were given a lot larger place in the storyline when it was revealed that they created the Transformers of Cybertron, only to be run off the planet something like 12 million years ago when their creations, having gain emotions and true sentience, turned on them.
Other sources however did the whole origin thing differently, making Cybertron itself a planet-sized Transformer in it's own right, by the name of Primus. There's also a whole lot of stuff about conflict between Primus and Unicron thrown in there, with plenty of Marvel's tendency towards ancient mystical beings and the conflict of good and evil... but on the baseline, the more popular origin was the Primus one, with most other continuities picking it up.
Yeah, well, as much as I like Primus origin and all, I get a brain itch from denial and retcon of the background given in my continuity (animated G1 was my first and will always colour my opinions on Transformers). I don't even like the reconciliation that some of the more recent comic give - that the Quints invaded Cybertron.
So anyway, I came up with my own (and that was before I found the invasion idea), and the main plotbunny is very coloured by it.
Primus and the Quints - the Fishgirl way.
So, Big Bang. New universe. Everything's in flux. This primordial environment is just perfect for lifeforms that are made of pure energy to develop. The problem is, the universe doesn't stay that way and the environment that so suited them starts to die out on them (or at least that's how they viewed it). Some of them are pissy, but some look for solutions and find it's possible to bind themselves to this newfangled matter that's floating around and all.
The weaker ones have to resort to bonding to stars, while stronger ones that could last a bit longer before doing so, meaning they were able to bond with the latest thing out, planets!
So fast forward however many billions of years, to something like 12 million years prior Earth's 20th Century. A species known as the Quintessons come up with a technology that allows a machine to transform from one form to another. They see a ripe financial opportunity in marketing this, if they can develop useful lines of machines for the interstellar market. Of course, the projected size of production for this warrants setting up factories on a grand scale - a planetary scale, so they go hunting for a useful planet to do it on. The planet they find is dubbed Cybertron.
While in they early stages of research and development they find a rather curious geological feature - a chasm that leaks strange energy readings. Studies into the chasm uncover an odd effect - exposure to the energies does something to machines that improves their functions incredibly, making them able to compute things they had never been able to do so before.
Of course, the Quints didn't look deeply enough into why it had this effect and started experimenting on how to infuse the machines they were developing the way their worker droids had accidentally been. So they go about, building their factories and putting together their lines of transforming hardware, not realising that their fooling around with that chasm would have an unseen effect.
See, what they didn't bother to look into properly was that Cybertron was the ball of rock that one of those primordial energy being tied itself to, and the energies the Quints started infusing their products with came directly from that energy being, and essentially, was giving those products souls. Add onto that the detail that their fooling woke said energy being from dormancy... and well, when he started paying attention to what the Quints were doing, he realised that the products constituted his "children" and decided to infuse them with a will for freedom that no amount of programming their robotic bodies could negate... and well he kinda encouraged the eventual rebellion that ousted the Quints from Cybertron, all because he wanted his children to be free.
Then he went back to sleep.
So anyway, fast forward yet another 11 million years. Optimus Prime is back from the dead and working both fight the Decepticons, as well as try to rebuild Cybertron. He's got help of course, his Sub-Commander and old friend, Ultra Magnus, and his successor-turned-lietentant, Rodimus (sans Prime, because only the Supreme Commander wears that title, plus there's all sort of issues over the name "Rodimus", since some have reverted to "Hot Rod" while others keep using "Rodimus" - strangely, Optimus has chosen "Rodimus") backing him up.
Things aren't going too well on the war front however, while the Autobots are holding Cybertron, the depowering of the Matrix to destroy the Hate Plague means that Optimus himself has lost a lot of power that he previously drew from the Matrix. Rodimus isn't too much better, because while his original upgrade was intended to make him equal to Galvatron, it was also closely linked to the Matrix and lack of the Matrix means he's a fair bit weaker - not quite right back to the point he was as Hot Rod before he became Prime, but definitely weaker than he was as Prime. There's also a minor issue of deep space scanning equipment starting up on it's own, but that's a problem that has been delegated to Perceptor to figure out the glitches.
Optimus decides something needs to be done about this, but the only possible place he might find information is from Alpha Trion, which warrants a trip into the deeper parts of Cybertron to where Vector Sigma is located. He asks Rodimus to accompany him, because if it's something pertaining to the Matrix, he figures it's best to have both Autobots that are currently bonded to it present. Only the discussion of it gets overheard by Ultra Magnus, who insists on coming with them as well, to watch their backs.
But like a great deal that goes on, somehow the information about this trip leaks and falls into Decepticon hands, and Galvatron figures it's a good chance to get rid of all three of the Autobots' highest ranking officers - and three Autobots Galvatron has a particular grudge against.
Add onto that the worry that erupts back and Autobot headquarters and another group of Autobots follow, not only to find out why their leaders have gone off, but also to help them stand up to Galvatron and his flunkies (which includes at least Cyclonus, Scourge, a squad of Sweeps and maybe Soundwave). (Said Autobot group's make-up is optional, but I favour it including Arcee, Springer, and maybe Wreck-Gar, since season three has him on Cybertron a lot.)
And last but not least, Starscream! Yes, I'm fond of the little shit, so why not? Somehow he got out of that out-of-control careening through space situation he was in and found himself a way back to Cybertron and sees Galvatron following the Autobot leaders, and follows intent on exacting revenge on Galvatron.
Of course, all this culminates in a showdown in the Vector Sigma chamber, which finally gets shut down when Primus uses his links to Vector Sigma (built into VC, so it could regulate the process of infusing sparks into Transformers) to tell them all to shut up, tear verbal strips out of Galvatron and Starscream for their respective affiliations with Unicron, and tear them a new one literally, as he reformats them to remove any trace of Unicron's influence (he's a bit pissy over the whole Unicron thing - I mean really, Unicron was first going to dismember Cybertron, then later wanted to convert Cybertron into his new body - Primus has a right to be pissy, especially since Cybertron's severe lack of energy meant that Primus couldn't transform and therefore had no way to fight and that was really not a good way to be woken up!). He also does a number on both Scourge and Cyclonus - tearing them apart and taking their sparks so he can cleanse them of Unicron's taint.
Then the real bombshell is dropped. The whole incident with Unicron, followed so soon after by the release of the Matrix's energies to stop the Hate Plague has alerted several other living worlds. Those deep space scanning glitches? Totally not glitches - they were Alpha Trion tapping into the systems on Primus' orders to scan deep space for reactions to recent events. Turns out there has been, and the prospects are not good.
So both Autobots and Decepticons are under orders from Primus himself to shut up, stop their petty squabbling, and get Cybertron up and running properly because in all likelihood, Primus' kindred living planets will be event less friendly that Unicron and there are several headed Cybertron's general direction.
Where it goes after that however is in the area of vague impending threat I'm not good at thinking up.
And the part I left out? This is all an excuse for Optimus/Magnus/Rodimus, but with a reason behind why they go wandering off into the depths of Cybertron on their own, because while Roddy might play hooky, Optimus and Magnus wouldn't.
Also options on doing something to change Galvatron back into Megatron, because I hate Galvatron. Really.
One last thing, it occurred to me that the backstory for Primus that I came up with is a good backstory also for a Final Fantasy crossover. Basically, the bit about energy beings becoming the core of living worlds? A good backstory also for the Lifestream.
Besides, I've been idly contemplating how Transformer would be taken if they landed on the Guardianverse version of the FF8 world. Let's just say, any attempts by the Decepticons to harvest the Lifestream and convert it to energon would be met with some really hard-hitting spells from the likes of Squall and his fellow SeeDs - Griever and the other guardians would be rather unimpressed with Lifestream harvesting, especially those who lived on Gaea (FF7) beforehand.
I've left off until now however because some of my earlier thoughts were only partial but I've been mulling over one that has developed to a point that I just have to put it to rest somehow, and writing a synopsis has worked in the past.
To start off with, one of the lines of thinking I got into at some point (probably during the week my compy was off at the shop) about how to resolve G1 Quintesson origin with Primus.
For those with a less than substantial memory of G1 animated canon, the Quintessons were introduced in TFTM (i.e. the '86 animated movie). There they were basically just a pack of five-faced bastards with a legal system that was really, really nasty. If you get found innocent, you get executed, if get found guilty, you get executed too. Usually by dint of being fed to the Sharkticons.
However, with the introductory storyline of season 3 of the series, the Quints were given a lot larger place in the storyline when it was revealed that they created the Transformers of Cybertron, only to be run off the planet something like 12 million years ago when their creations, having gain emotions and true sentience, turned on them.
Other sources however did the whole origin thing differently, making Cybertron itself a planet-sized Transformer in it's own right, by the name of Primus. There's also a whole lot of stuff about conflict between Primus and Unicron thrown in there, with plenty of Marvel's tendency towards ancient mystical beings and the conflict of good and evil... but on the baseline, the more popular origin was the Primus one, with most other continuities picking it up.
Yeah, well, as much as I like Primus origin and all, I get a brain itch from denial and retcon of the background given in my continuity (animated G1 was my first and will always colour my opinions on Transformers). I don't even like the reconciliation that some of the more recent comic give - that the Quints invaded Cybertron.
So anyway, I came up with my own (and that was before I found the invasion idea), and the main plotbunny is very coloured by it.
Primus and the Quints - the Fishgirl way.
So, Big Bang. New universe. Everything's in flux. This primordial environment is just perfect for lifeforms that are made of pure energy to develop. The problem is, the universe doesn't stay that way and the environment that so suited them starts to die out on them (or at least that's how they viewed it). Some of them are pissy, but some look for solutions and find it's possible to bind themselves to this newfangled matter that's floating around and all.
The weaker ones have to resort to bonding to stars, while stronger ones that could last a bit longer before doing so, meaning they were able to bond with the latest thing out, planets!
So fast forward however many billions of years, to something like 12 million years prior Earth's 20th Century. A species known as the Quintessons come up with a technology that allows a machine to transform from one form to another. They see a ripe financial opportunity in marketing this, if they can develop useful lines of machines for the interstellar market. Of course, the projected size of production for this warrants setting up factories on a grand scale - a planetary scale, so they go hunting for a useful planet to do it on. The planet they find is dubbed Cybertron.
While in they early stages of research and development they find a rather curious geological feature - a chasm that leaks strange energy readings. Studies into the chasm uncover an odd effect - exposure to the energies does something to machines that improves their functions incredibly, making them able to compute things they had never been able to do so before.
Of course, the Quints didn't look deeply enough into why it had this effect and started experimenting on how to infuse the machines they were developing the way their worker droids had accidentally been. So they go about, building their factories and putting together their lines of transforming hardware, not realising that their fooling around with that chasm would have an unseen effect.
See, what they didn't bother to look into properly was that Cybertron was the ball of rock that one of those primordial energy being tied itself to, and the energies the Quints started infusing their products with came directly from that energy being, and essentially, was giving those products souls. Add onto that the detail that their fooling woke said energy being from dormancy... and well, when he started paying attention to what the Quints were doing, he realised that the products constituted his "children" and decided to infuse them with a will for freedom that no amount of programming their robotic bodies could negate... and well he kinda encouraged the eventual rebellion that ousted the Quints from Cybertron, all because he wanted his children to be free.
Then he went back to sleep.
So anyway, fast forward yet another 11 million years. Optimus Prime is back from the dead and working both fight the Decepticons, as well as try to rebuild Cybertron. He's got help of course, his Sub-Commander and old friend, Ultra Magnus, and his successor-turned-lietentant, Rodimus (sans Prime, because only the Supreme Commander wears that title, plus there's all sort of issues over the name "Rodimus", since some have reverted to "Hot Rod" while others keep using "Rodimus" - strangely, Optimus has chosen "Rodimus") backing him up.
Things aren't going too well on the war front however, while the Autobots are holding Cybertron, the depowering of the Matrix to destroy the Hate Plague means that Optimus himself has lost a lot of power that he previously drew from the Matrix. Rodimus isn't too much better, because while his original upgrade was intended to make him equal to Galvatron, it was also closely linked to the Matrix and lack of the Matrix means he's a fair bit weaker - not quite right back to the point he was as Hot Rod before he became Prime, but definitely weaker than he was as Prime. There's also a minor issue of deep space scanning equipment starting up on it's own, but that's a problem that has been delegated to Perceptor to figure out the glitches.
Optimus decides something needs to be done about this, but the only possible place he might find information is from Alpha Trion, which warrants a trip into the deeper parts of Cybertron to where Vector Sigma is located. He asks Rodimus to accompany him, because if it's something pertaining to the Matrix, he figures it's best to have both Autobots that are currently bonded to it present. Only the discussion of it gets overheard by Ultra Magnus, who insists on coming with them as well, to watch their backs.
But like a great deal that goes on, somehow the information about this trip leaks and falls into Decepticon hands, and Galvatron figures it's a good chance to get rid of all three of the Autobots' highest ranking officers - and three Autobots Galvatron has a particular grudge against.
Add onto that the worry that erupts back and Autobot headquarters and another group of Autobots follow, not only to find out why their leaders have gone off, but also to help them stand up to Galvatron and his flunkies (which includes at least Cyclonus, Scourge, a squad of Sweeps and maybe Soundwave). (Said Autobot group's make-up is optional, but I favour it including Arcee, Springer, and maybe Wreck-Gar, since season three has him on Cybertron a lot.)
And last but not least, Starscream! Yes, I'm fond of the little shit, so why not? Somehow he got out of that out-of-control careening through space situation he was in and found himself a way back to Cybertron and sees Galvatron following the Autobot leaders, and follows intent on exacting revenge on Galvatron.
Of course, all this culminates in a showdown in the Vector Sigma chamber, which finally gets shut down when Primus uses his links to Vector Sigma (built into VC, so it could regulate the process of infusing sparks into Transformers) to tell them all to shut up, tear verbal strips out of Galvatron and Starscream for their respective affiliations with Unicron, and tear them a new one literally, as he reformats them to remove any trace of Unicron's influence (he's a bit pissy over the whole Unicron thing - I mean really, Unicron was first going to dismember Cybertron, then later wanted to convert Cybertron into his new body - Primus has a right to be pissy, especially since Cybertron's severe lack of energy meant that Primus couldn't transform and therefore had no way to fight and that was really not a good way to be woken up!). He also does a number on both Scourge and Cyclonus - tearing them apart and taking their sparks so he can cleanse them of Unicron's taint.
Then the real bombshell is dropped. The whole incident with Unicron, followed so soon after by the release of the Matrix's energies to stop the Hate Plague has alerted several other living worlds. Those deep space scanning glitches? Totally not glitches - they were Alpha Trion tapping into the systems on Primus' orders to scan deep space for reactions to recent events. Turns out there has been, and the prospects are not good.
So both Autobots and Decepticons are under orders from Primus himself to shut up, stop their petty squabbling, and get Cybertron up and running properly because in all likelihood, Primus' kindred living planets will be event less friendly that Unicron and there are several headed Cybertron's general direction.
Where it goes after that however is in the area of vague impending threat I'm not good at thinking up.
And the part I left out? This is all an excuse for Optimus/Magnus/Rodimus, but with a reason behind why they go wandering off into the depths of Cybertron on their own, because while Roddy might play hooky, Optimus and Magnus wouldn't.
Also options on doing something to change Galvatron back into Megatron, because I hate Galvatron. Really.
One last thing, it occurred to me that the backstory for Primus that I came up with is a good backstory also for a Final Fantasy crossover. Basically, the bit about energy beings becoming the core of living worlds? A good backstory also for the Lifestream.
Besides, I've been idly contemplating how Transformer would be taken if they landed on the Guardianverse version of the FF8 world. Let's just say, any attempts by the Decepticons to harvest the Lifestream and convert it to energon would be met with some really hard-hitting spells from the likes of Squall and his fellow SeeDs - Griever and the other guardians would be rather unimpressed with Lifestream harvesting, especially those who lived on Gaea (FF7) beforehand.
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2007-12-15 16:19 (UTC)My Primus and Unicron bunnies never work-- they get along too well. (Like, "Why is Galvatron and Megatron Coexisting?" "I DIDN'T DO IT!" "Shut UP Unicron" type of WHY DO THEY NOT PLAY NICE.)
I'm working at it. I'd actually see thsat as a really badass RP setting... O_o
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2007-12-15 16:52 (UTC)Ugh! Don't talk to me about Primus and Unicron! I read
But an RP? I wish I had the confidence to start one up.